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| what I've seen in Genoa | ||
| by x Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 4:32 AM | mail: | |
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I was in Corso Torino in the morning of 20.I started the manifestation with Pink people,with pacific intention,but also with the intention to testify as a reporter. |
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| comments on black blocks | ||
| by Joe Hill Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 11:26 PM | mail: | |
I wasn't in Genoa, but I was in Seattle, and in Seattle, there were a couple reported incidents of anarchists in the block block fighting with a "pacifist". In the two cases I saw, the black block was vandalizing some coporate property and a "pacifist" tried to physically restrain one of them and hand them over to the police. When this happened, other black blockers used force to free their friend, but only enough force to free him. In other situations, the "pacifist" was actually a plainclothes police officer and not a misguided pacifist at all. |
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| diversity | ||
| by nikita Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 1:05 AM | mail: | |
I think we need to acept the fact that we will only achieve our aims for a better socirty free of greed if we embrace a diversity of tactics. Just one tactic will not do. Black Bloc are with us, just in a way that not all are willing to embrace as a means for themselves. Fine. I am not willing to spend my time in an office talking about changing legislation with white guys in suits. but some are doing this, and at times, it advances us. we do not want a homogeneous movement, so we need to stop villifying each other. I was not in Genoa this weekend but some of my companeros were, and even among this small group, I am sure their are a diversity of tactics and positions on what will move us forward. Yes, we need to reflect and be critical about what is working and what is holding us back, but let us not forget the contributions that the Black Bloc have made, even if some of the media spin has been inflamatory, even if smashing materialism and capitalism makes some among the "anti-globo' movement uncomfortable. |
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| Don't Bash the Black Bloc | ||
| by Black Flag Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 1:43 AM | mail: | |
I guarantee that if you saw so-called members of the Black Bloc beating other protestors, these people were Police |
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| diversity of tactics | ||
| by Hitzewelle Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 1:59 AM | mail: | |
Indeed, diversity of tactics is what we need in order to stay unified as a movement. But "diversity of tactics" is not synonymous to "anything goes". Violence within an action of nonviolent civil disobedience violates that consensus. If people from the black block want the solidarity of the rest of the movement, they must stop destroying everybody else's actions. I believe that it is only a small part of the black block that is involved in destroying small businesses and property of working class people and that start a riot when most participants of a manifestation don't want one. But as long as the rest of the black block stays in solidarity with those who use violence - often not even aimed at particular targets - in order proof themselves their manlyhood, nonviolent part of the movement will divide themselves from militant parts. Remember that violence is always the dominant tactic - those who use it should be aware of the fact that it can destroy more subtle tactics. |
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| Yes and No | ||
| by martha Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 2:08 AM | mail: | |
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| NV don't own the movement | ||
| by James Anon Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 4:32 AM | mail: | |
Hitzewelle writes: |
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