Why we need to keep the movement together

The left, over the broad span of history, has always been victorious when it has both "good cops" and "bad cops", both Malcolm X and Martin Luther King. The (relative) humanization of capitalism which took place in the rich countries of the world in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century depended on both the threat of red revolution and anarchist syndicalism, AND on reformists who were willing to take 1/3 of what their supporters wanted rather than fight to the end. We need now and in the future to have black, pink, pacifists, and the Bonos etc pressing at the same time.

What should be clear however is that slogans like "fuck the police" are childish and stupid (if not the work of agent provocateurs). The police are a bunch of scared 20 year old bullies, even if our side had killed thousands of them it would have had absolutely no effect on the global state/economic regime which is modern capitalism. The bastards will always have more guns and more hate than we do: we have to be smarter and more loving than them: thats where we have strategic advantages

You are totaly right.

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You are so absolutely right on target!!!!!!

and in Europe they are not very effective in preventing Police attacks, disturbing the work of banks and similar or putting the the right causes on the agenda.

On the contrary, the instigated violence in Genoa seem to have excused excessive police brutality, suppression of the free press as in IMC and random beatings and arrests of innocent people. I don't care who started the violence, because it's still wrong to take part in attacks (defence may be tolerated in extreme situations).

The bottom line is: Violence is not effective but counter productive to the goals of the libertarian left. Violence may be effective in a dictatorship, but not in a democracy or in countries where they pretend to have democracy (pick your definition).

Are you trying to justify your elitist , white , student movement by refeering to these heroes ?

Their masters are not the enemy. The system is the enemy.

The cops are fellow workers. As such, they are entitled to our comradely solidarity. We shouldn't be fighting them. We should be helping them organize for better working conditions. These guys need to learn how, and when, to go out on strike. When they do strike, we should honor their picket lines, especially if they strike at an appropriate time. Better still, we should go out on a sympathy strike, all of us, every last one.

Your comment about needing the Reformist political elements with the revolutionary is somewhat misguided.

What is needed is a revolutionary political movement and what Michael Albert calls "NON-Reformist Reforms." Non-reformist reforms are about winning tangible concessions from the powers that be--NOT as an end unto themselves BUT rather as a progression towards more fundamental structural challenges to the capitalist/imperialist system that currently exists.

Many of these so-called Reformers in the anti-globalization movement are not interested in challenging capitalism. IN fact, they want to save capitalism, make capitalism stronger by developing various reformist political changes which neutralize and pacify the general discontent which the anti-globalization movement represents.

To draw upon your analogy of the black power/civil rights protests of the 1960s, many of the so-called civil rights reformers whom you probably would support (like the NAACP) have become defenders of the very racist status quo which they should be protesting against. Indeed, the so-called "reformer," Martin Luther King Jr., increasingly became MORE RADICAL and MORE MILITANT near the end of his life, not less so. That is why they murdered him...

Reformist sell-outs in general should be be challenged at every turn. There is nobody that should be trusted less than the so-called leaders and liberal advocacy organizations which are no doubt already jockeying for favor and government funding from the very economic and political elites they claim to be protesting.

Finally, it is ridiculous you cite some celebrity punk like BONO (of U2 fame) as some kind of activist. Bono is one of the richest men in the World! He is part of the system of capitalist exploitation he supposedly protests against. If this charlatan is sincere about his opposition to economic inequality, let him agitate against intellectual property rights and the general system of copyrights on music and other cultural commodities that he has so handsomely profitted from!!!