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| Anarchist/Black Bloc Motivation Explained | ||
| by James Anon Friday, Aug. 10, 2001 at 11:32 AM | mail: | |
Many seem to be confused or angry at those who have used street fighting tactics in Genoa. By explaining the motivation behind using these street fighting tactics, especially from the Black Bloc perspective, this article hopes to sooth some of that anger. The article also suggests some ways we as a movement can move forward concerning the disagreement over forceful or non-violent direct action.
Firstly, I am an anarchist, and this has been written because much of the anarchist position on street fighting tactics needs to be explained, especially after the murder of the brave street fighter Carlo Giuliani. Nobody should expect radical change to be a comfortable and easy process. Many people are angry, and confused by events in Genoa, this article is designed to help turn some of that anger and confusion into constructive ends. Because the anarchist movement is an anti-authoritarian one of free thinkers I, of course, only talk for myself, but I believe many feel the same thing. This isn't just a dogmatic defense of the Bloc in Genoa. The Black Bloc made mistakes I'm sure, and there are issues on how the Bloc can weed out problems, however I still believe in the Black Bloc and it's tactics for many good reasons, which are:
These four points, I believe, are held by a large number in the anti-globalization movement and they help to justify the Black Bloc action.
This article isn't an argument to say that forceful direct action is always appropriate. As such I would also hold open the possibility that what has happened in Genoa by the Black Bloc was the wrong thing to do, either in part or wholly. Writing tactics such as the Bloc off because of some mistakes is too simplistic.
The debate between if to use force or non-violence is one that should really be dropped. In its place should be the much more useful debate of what is the best confrontational tactic for the situation. It is neither street fighting nor non-violent action that draws people to the movement, it is the level of confrontation. Take Seattle as and example to illustrate this point. There was mostly non-violent action there AND most of that non-violent action was pivotal in the successful blockade. The effective blockade in turn showed our confrontation to our oppressors that we needed to kick-start the movement. Post Seattle people were attracted to the movement by the fact that the WTO was effectively disrupted, not that peaceful protestors were beaten, as some like to think. When you look at all the anti-globalization events it can be seen that they all hold in common a simple equation, the succeed because they aren't a simple demonstration, they are an active confrontation. Now look at how tactics have developed, from Seattle to Prague, from Melbourne to Quebec, both non-violence and street fighting have been effective in developing an inspiring confrontation. However, more and more, the role of non-violence committed activists in achieving confrontation to those we oppose has dropped off dramatically, in favor of this 'carnival protest' model which is, on the confrontation scale, only symbolic resistance at best. It has been the anarchists and the Black Bloc in particular, and more and more groups like Ya Basta!, that have kept tactics fresh and relevant by planning how to challenge the walled city approach now used by the powers that be to protect their meetings.
I'm not dismissing comment made by people who disagree with violence; in fact I would encourage a dialogue between the differing factions, a dialogue that would hopefully think up improved tactics. An example of the cross faction tactics we need would be the tactic of separating the different street fighting/non-violent factions into their own section so that people can choose their level of involvement. Admittedly this tactic fails sometimes in that it doesn't address the fact that police won't always respect the difference, but this is the kind of thing we need to think around and improve upon.
This single biggest issue that needs to be addressed is one that concerns committed non-violence activists themselves. Since Seattle they have, mostly, failed to come up with new non-violent direct action tactics that maintain confrontation between us and our oppressors and adapt to the current way summit are organized. Those committed non-violent direct action desperately need to abandon the blockade model, and to dismiss the protest march/street party approach as their only response as both are ineffective in disrupting these summits. In Genoa those who are prepared to street fight would welcome feasible non-violent tactic for crossing into the red zone and disrupting/closing down the meeting of the G8. In return for fresh and effective non-violent tactics, I believe, the Bloc would abstain from using force while the tactic still works. But, as everyone know, those committed non-violent direct action tacticians came up with no such plans, they just contented themselves with a symbolic resistance, something that will always be intolerable to those who demand radical change.
Consider, what would have Gandhi done? Would he have sat outside a conference gate, or marched around the center, knowing that this would disrupt nothing, or would he have (perhaps) scaled the fence, or done something else (ie encourage a general strike)? I personally, and many other, can't stand to see people getting passively beaten up, and we will defend ourselves if attacked, but we will respect those who have their own tactics. If non-violent direct action theorists come up with something effective then it will be supported.
One problem with forums like Indymedia is the endless rhetoric paraded as arguments, such as how 'violence beget violence' etc etc. Those people need to be less elitist, get off their high horse and realize that people who street fight have though about all these points as well, and just disagree. As such if you want a change in tactics, if you want to stop the street fighting, you're going to have to come up with an alternative that remains confrontational. One of the worst aspect of the movement now is the way that people content themselves on blaming others for failings of the day as a way of dodging their own responsibility to adapt to changing situations.
Finally I would like to appeal to those who street fight and those who believe in non-violent action alike: 1) We must stay united; without each other we are the isolated bland force that the state and capital has out maneuvered time and time again over most of the last 50 years. Each faction needs to actively avoid a split byinfluencing the members within each that move to create a division over dogmatic interpretations of ideology.
2) We, forceful and non-violent direct actionists, need to work together to consider how to confront our oppressors in their planning our oppression, with the aim of disrupting/shutting them down non-violently ideally and primarily, but forcefully if necessary. 3) We need to broaden our actions both in membership demographics and in tactics, including non-anti-summit actions. Radical change is unlikely to come about just through shutting down these meetings (but it would be a good start). |
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| we need to sort this out | ||
| by pizzedoff Monday, Aug. 27, 2001 at 11:17 PM | mail: | |
I am not against violent demonstrators , i'm an anarchist |
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| Violence on a summit is not gonna change the system? | ||
| by Madman Friday, Jul. 27, 2001 at 11:40 AM | mail: | |
I think using violence on summits is not gonna change the system. I don't condemn the violence as it is nothing compared to the violence from the system (Palestine, Colombia and Genova). Caus how is it possible to compare a human life against a smashed window. But the strategical use of violence is not good cause it will create a distance to the ppl who can change the system and our cause. With non-violent direct action we create sympathy and support for our cause, because the police are then the bad guys. Then ppl get the confidence to change the system where lies it weakness. The places where we are exploited, factories, offices and the farms. When ppl take over the power with the use of violence within these places and replace the hierarchy by a system similar to the soviets, communes of paris and the councils in the spanish civil war. Using violence on summits gives the media a chance to make us look like extreme terrorists, where so the state violence is allowed. We have to got to get ppl at our side, that is a thing wwe have got to keep in mind. Violence is certainly not going to do that. |
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| black bloc is police | ||
| by Fuck YOU!!! Monday, Aug. 27, 2001 at 11:15 PM | mail: | |
The black bloc is the secret face of police who can stop a powerfull movement. |
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| so, uh what's next? | ||
| by durruti Wednesday, Jul. 25, 2001 at 12:53 AM | mail: | |
Seattle= trashing stores while blockader shut down WTO |
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| bogus criticism | ||
| by seattle bob Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 2:09 PM | mail: | |
"This single biggest issue that needs to be addressed is one that concerns committed non-violence activists themselves. Since Seattle they have, mostly, failed to come up with new non-violent direct action tactics that maintain confrontation between us and our oppressors and adapt to the current way summit are organized. |
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| advance | ||
| by sonyc Wednesday, Aug. 08, 2001 at 11:10 PM | mail: | |
this is a global struggle. so you should learn about resistance from different cultures. |
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| if you mean it. | ||
| by an idea Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 2:15 PM | mail: | |
whay not call an action all by yourselves? |
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| drop "ghandi" point. | ||
| by michał frydrych Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 3:19 PM | mail: | |
ghandi was in no way an anarchist, but the chief of the indian state. he can shove his teachings up his peaceful ass. anyonewhoqoutes ghndi is for me either ignorant or a member of labour party. |
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| Somme comments on violence/non-violence | ||
| by MK Wednesday, Jul. 25, 2001 at 5:26 PM | mail: | |
First, a small story:In Gothenburg, when we were surrounded by police cavalry, we were rescued by a samba-band that marched through the police-lines. It was a very strong moment to me, and defined the turning point of that battle,use it marked a counterpoint to the militaristic structure of that demo up til that point. In military terms: We took the initiative, and changed the substance of the demo, became actors instead of stupid reactors to the policeforces obvious wish for *hard confrontation*. |
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| SHIT BLOC | ||
| by cristopher Sunday, Jul. 29, 2001 at 7:07 PM | mail: | |
Next time, I hope that police will do things right and wipe out shit, black or pink bloc or whatever. Because bloc is just looking for it. If they want violence the police should serve them. WHAT DID THE POOR PROTESTERS EXPECT? IF YOU WOULD COME TO MY TOWN WITH TORCHES AND CLUBS AND MOLOTOVS I WOULD PERSONALY BEAT THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF YOU!!!!!!!! GLOBALIZATION OR NO GLOBALIZATION!!!!!!!!! GO STRUGGLE IN YOUR OWN HOMEYARD!!!!!!! |
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| Stop litigation | ||
| by Bakun Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 6:52 PM | mail: | |
Companeros, stop to polemic violence vs non violence. It's this anacronistic tradition that exactly has led to present situation of globalise insatisfaction against the horrific religion of money, THE REAL RELIGION, that spread misery of lives not only in 3rd,4rd world but everywere, in places socalled rich countries. Rich for ten percent. NO SOMOS TODOS IGUALES y entonces a los que va de hacer de una manera mas fuerte le van a dar la cara los medio sumetidos, a los pacifistas le dan a de que lagnarse SOLAMENTE. In this moment the capitalism global is without money, there are no dramatic crisis into dramatic countries but at the heart of capitalism: the united states of texan president, the great japan of senor koizumi-richard gere and finally europe that is walking like a drunked in economic term. ES LA HORA DE HACER PROJECTOS CONCRETOS puisque les messieurs qui gouvernent le monde ne sont que la masque du poivoir economique. La lucha sigua! |
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| A world-wide forum, a world-wide change... | ||
| by DredLox Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 7:01 PM | mail: | |
Yes!! One thing that WILL change things is decisive thought. |
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| You failed to understand one simple fact. | ||
| by Devashanti Monday, Aug. 27, 2001 at 11:21 PM | mail: | |
They have all the weapons. Even if those working for global justice did unite in tactics, it is fruitless to try to commit violent acts, i.e. street fighting, in a large demonstration because the police will always win in physical confrontation, and many people get hurt. We can never win as long as any one group (concept, idea, or whatever the hell you want to call the black bloc) is determined to commit acts of violence against anyone at the same time we are all gathered to deliver a message peacefully. Violence wins. Just look at the coverage from Genoa. |
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| Who needs cops... we got ourselves. | ||
| by T.C. Tuesday, Jul. 24, 2001 at 11:42 PM | mail: | |
Look at us fighting like kids. Snap out of it. We have more important stuff to worry about than how the other one expresses disaproval. We need to stick together. |
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| Haymarket II? | ||
| by Another Anarchist Thursday, Jul. 26, 2001 at 8:34 PM | mail: | |
Look, kids... it's like this. The cops/state/corporations are gonna kill this movement if the Bloc doesn't stop trying to fight on the cops/state/corporations' terms. Sooner or later someone's gonna kill a cop. Now, I am not going to sit here and say there's an absolute moral objection to this action. It will depend on the situational circumstances (self-defense, etc) and one's own beliefs. However, history tells us what comes next. |
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| this is hard to say so bear with me | ||
| by Suction Pudding Wednesday, Jul. 25, 2001 at 5:09 AM | mail: | |
In this 1/4 super-industrailized society acts of violence by the state should be exposed for what they are, TRAGIC ACTS (ALL OVER THE WORLD) COMMITED BY PAID COWARDS, STEMMING FROM THE GREED OF THE ELITE. When we are forced into violent confrotations with the state we sometimes become a distraction for them. We can't win if they drag us down to there level. |
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| a war of ideas fought with crowbars? | ||
| by the golux Thursday, Jul. 26, 2001 at 8:37 PM | mail: | |
remember, ye raging, that this conflict is not a simple local one. it goes far beyond Genoa. nonviolence is not "peer pressure" - it is a viable strategy of *war*. as Ursula Le Guin wrote, "the prize thrown away by the aggressor is compassion...the game is loser take all." this is hard to accept while watching comrades gassed and beaten, but to succumb to anger is to play into the hands of the machine behind the police. whenever that machine gets the chance, it promotes *violence.* it promotes direct, violent confrontation. what little the mass media decides to say about these protests must not be filled with tales of smashed banks and crowbars. with protest, you do not seek to change the minds of the police, or the Hideous Eight...you seek to alert and influence the masses; those who are far from Genoa. think of yourselves as you will be portrayed. think of yourselves as crowds of public relations officers, all striving to portray an exaggerated truth...because in the long run, your factions will be forgotten, and the bloc will blend with everyone else, lumped into "protestors." already the 'bloc' is too complex and diverse to be referred to as a whole. |
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| our tactics need to evolve | ||
| by Jamie O'Keefe Wednesday, Jul. 25, 2001 at 6:54 PM | mail: | |
you make a good point James. the movement's tactics need to evolve with police/govt. tactics. I don't have too many answers to those questions, but I would recommend the following books. You can find them used as http://www.alibris.com. |
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| MK | ||
| by Tomas Wednesday, Jul. 25, 2001 at 10:40 PM | mail: | |
MK is right. Holding information meetings localy is vital to the progress of the movement. |
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| how knows | ||
| by imranx Wednesday, Jul. 25, 2001 at 11:43 PM | mail: | |
i see myself as a anarchists as well - and i am still not decided about future tactics - its nothing about ideological violant or strictly non violant - i am sure we will neither win as peacefull ducks nor violent streetfighters only - we have to to find and work on a mixture of strong and working actions and movements - addapted on a 21 century world - with fast comunication, coordination, protection and fightig groups and so on - for this time i see genova as a big step for many people and even not so bad - at last it was the most beautiful demonstration of the world - the corso italia - the nice italian palaces on one hand and the see with a lot of little ships on the other hand - even helicopters around us ... well until we had to face some foggy conditions ;) |
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| go to hell hippies!!! i'm sure you will. | ||
| by gakman Thursday, Jul. 26, 2001 at 9:06 AM | mail: | |
HEY FUCKING SELFISH STUPID HIPPIES, HAVE YOU EVEN READ THE MESSAGE THAT STARTED THIS THREAD. IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY FUCKING PACIFIST THAT POSTS ON THE IMC IS NOT EVEN READING WHAT OTHERS WRITE. THEY ARE JUST PREOCCUPIED BY THEIR THOUGHTS AND ARE SO SURE THAT THEIR WAY IS THE BEST THAT THEY ARE READY TO DIVIDE THE MOVEMENT (MAKE US LOSE THE WAR) TO PROVE THAT THEIR MARTYR TECHNIQUE IS BETTER THAN FIGHTING BACK. |
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| can we convince people instead of fighting them? | ||
| by andrew pink Monday, Jul. 30, 2001 at 5:44 AM | mail: apink1@hotmail.com | |
although i am not at all active in the fight against captalism (at least not yet) i attended the ftaa summit in quebec where i chose to remain mostly with the "peaceful protestors." however i respect and support those who feel it is neccesary to directly confront the police. i also think i do believe a geniune and real change, not just "a softening of the sharpest corners," will come around only when all people can see our world for what it really is. i admit to knowing still very little about anarchism but to me it's potential will only be realized providing people have a true belief in it and determination to work towards it. i'm just afraid (and in most of the protests i've attended i'm always left with the feeling) that focusing on the enemy's stick deflects our attention from fighting their ideas. won't the world's elites just find more and more remote places to conduct their affairs? what then do we do? |
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| Straight up dude. | ||
| by chad Friday, Aug. 10, 2001 at 11:32 AM | mail: cesmooth@hotmail.com | |
Violent and non-violent alike, we gotts to stay united to the end... do what you feel convicted to do... just do not hate your sisters or brothers. |
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