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| The Magical Mystery Tour of the Fake Black Bloc in Genoa | ||
| by Wu Ming 1 Thursday, Aug. 09, 2001 at 2:01 PM | mail: roberto.bui@libero.it | |
We should not criminalize the Black Bloc or accuse anarchists, for what happened in Genoa has very little to do with their tactics, and there is ever more evidence that the top trashers were cops in disguise.
I was in Genoa, and I came back worn out, angry, disappointed, feverish, with the ligaments of my knees destroyed and completely out of voice, and I say: do not go hunting anarchists, do not criminalize the international Black Bloc. It is our duty to draw distinctions between the Black Bloc and what happened in Genoa. It is our duty not to charge with being a carabiniere in disguise anyone who took direct action in Genoa. Pogroms and paranoid conspiracy theories do not belong to our culture. |
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| thanks | ||
| by nihila Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 7:42 AM | mail: | |
thank you for working to set things straight. |
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| new clothing required? | ||
| by the tailor Wednesday, Jul. 25, 2001 at 9:05 PM | mail: | |
have y'all thought of creating some sort of custom t-shirts or something else not so easily imitated? You could keep changing your color scheme with each demonstration.... special make-up and a code word? lol |
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| Thank you | ||
| by Through Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 7:46 AM | mail: | |
Thank you Wu, as an anarchist who has particpated in Bloc actions in the US as well as Prague, your statements come at a very appropriate time. I was not in Genoa, but ive been following the preceedings closely and police infiltration of the Bloc is the only possible answer for why our friends there have been so slandered. Your article mentions Germans, and the Autonomen that i have met are of the highest integrity, that i find it hard to believe that tey would engage in the destruction of lower-class autos and small business, or endangering non-violent protesters at that. |
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| re-think tactics | ||
| by anonymous Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 7:50 AM | mail: | |
The important part of this article is the last part: it's necessary to re-think a tactic that can be infiltrated and deviated so easily. |
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| Move ahead, and differentiate between violence and property destruction | ||
| by actionseed Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 7:59 AM | mail: | |
It is not too much to agree that we will: |
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| Tactics | ||
| by Matthew Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 8:04 AM | mail: | |
The Black Bloc has a tactic of weeding out infiltrators and tourists already. They do so by linking arms and forming lines of affinty groups, so that each line in the Bloc is an affinity group, and clusters march together in columns. While the Bloc is usually pretty goos at weeding out infiltrators, i dont think they knew how extensive the infiltratoin was. As in some cases, entire groups of carabinieri were disguised as Black Bloc. But im sure that Bloc actions in the future will be more cautious, as we are far more able to adjust our tactics than the state. |
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| No rulers does not mean no rules | ||
| by heckraiser Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 8:54 AM | mail: | |
Uniforms and code words would be too easy to overcome (the police have better communications than us) make it too hard for newcomers and people who just want to join in. |
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| Organise | ||
| by Ilyan Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 9:04 AM | mail: | |
Read Jack London's Iron heel written about 1913. (it is available on 144 disk) And do not be so innocent. Learn and organise and ask whether such Fascist Police can be part of Europe. Unless it is the Europe Hitler planned. |
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| women | ||
| by xoxo Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 9:05 AM | mail: | |
did the paramilitary blackblockers have women in their group? In the protests I have been in most Affinity groups have women in their ranks. As a woman, I often in the streets look to women(not exclusively, but first) for help assistance, and safety. were their women in these fake bloc |
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| blinded by the yoni........... | ||
| by duh Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 10:11 AM | mail: | |
ever think that maybe infiltrators and undercover officials come in both sexes? |
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| To XOXO | ||
| by Pierre Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 12:41 PM | mail: | |
From the video footage, what I assume was "fake" black bloc, they always appeared to be large males. Not neccessarily overweight, but just big, like someone who trains for combat for a living. |
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| links ??? | ||
| by anon Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 1:47 PM | mail: | |
Where can i find some of those videos & photos ? |
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| BB not an organization | ||
| by frontier Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 6:10 PM | mail: | |
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| other thread from this post | ||
| by c Wednesday, Jul. 25, 2001 at 6:47 PM | mail: | |
- barcelona.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=3193&group=webcast |
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| divided we fall | ||
| by joe Thursday, Jul. 26, 2001 at 7:02 AM | mail: | |
I agree. We must not succumb to division and infighting. |
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| Finalmente!!! | ||
| by Maria Saturday, Aug. 04, 2001 at 10:15 PM | mail: | |
Ciao Roberto avevo un grande bisogno di leggere ciò che hai scritto.Ti invito a leggere una mio commento(intitolato"una semplice analisi personale")all'articolo "intervista Black Block" che si dovrebbe trovare a pag 4 adesso e ti invito a commentarlo a tua volta.Sarei molto felice se tu lo facessi. |
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| unity | ||
| by charly croker Wednesday, Aug. 01, 2001 at 7:07 PM | mail: | |
in genoa i saw white overals(who were obviously not pigs) attack black bloc for attempting to blockade the road as we were forced to retreat back up the hill to carlini. i saw communists attack black bloc, breaking one english kid's nose.these were not the actions of infultrators, but of frightened people, who felt that we(the greater we) had lost control of the demonstation.i have been on many demonstrations, and have seen countless acts of stupidity, that can compromise the integrity of the movement.on the whole even the most hardcore of the so called black bloc would consider themselves gentle people. in the heat of what often quickly turns into battle, we all make mistakes. i personally thought at the time that it was a mistake to fire the banks as there were people living above them. our affinity group made the disision to defend the larger crowd by returning politza property, namely tear gas canisters. this still did not stop members of the communist bloc trying to unmask us, or photograph us when we were forced to unmask due to choking from the tear gas we were protecting them from. again i do not beleive them to be pigs, although they certainly behaved like they were(many of these said people were old men and women)the internation stage of our movement is in it's infancy,and all acting as one is our goal perhaps, we are gettig closer.allowing ourselves to be divided is what the greedy people want. we must allow each other to make mistakes and to learn from them.in our affinity group we have on pigs.anyone within that umberella acting inappropriatly, would be dealt with, as would anyone else arround us at the time.anarcy is self policing. together we will overcome..by all means nessesary |
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| bb and "black dressed guys" | ||
| by toni Thursday, Aug. 09, 2001 at 2:01 PM | mail: | |
I spent 2 hours closely watching so called "bb" in action in the streets west of Piazza Manin on 20th July. |
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