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Horrific raid on GSF and IMC Genoa : Report | ||
by IMCista Thursday, Aug. 02, 2001 at 1:42 AM | mail: | |
Report from the IMC tonight.
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Two questions | ||
by m Wednesday, Jul. 25, 2001 at 5:21 AM | mail: | |
Thank you for reporting this. But can you explain two things? |
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state terrorism | ||
by Giles Monday, Mar. 25, 2002 at 3:47 AM | mail: | |
Thanks for this great report in spite of the overt violence of the authorities. I think the fact that the direct brutalization of individuals occured outside of the IMC office indicates that It really makes a difference if the "world is watching" when journalists are present. Keep up the struggle! |
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Propaganda war between groups of hooligans | ||
by Perplexed Thursday, Jul. 26, 2001 at 3:03 AM | mail: | |
Suddenly the police have become rioting hooligans! |
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Choose not to be Oppressed | ||
by Chrysalis Aristaeus (Ostrander) Thursday, Aug. 09, 2001 at 3:25 PM | mail: | |
The questions on many people's minds as events unfold in Genoa are: "Why are protesters so intent on battling police?" and "Doesn't this violence detract from the message many of the demonstrators want to convey to world leaders?" |
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Pray for Peace | ||
by Jennifer Sparks Tuesday, Jul. 24, 2001 at 9:16 AM | mail: | |
I pray for the police who have commited these atrocities that they are able to understand true justice and find peace. |
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I dont get it... | ||
by Pete Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 9:05 AM | mail: | |
The cops spent their time to go into each computer to take the harddrives, which in alot of instances wouldnt work for them anyway...im sorry, im sorta critical eyed...i look at things multisided...and what we don't know is exactly why they were there in the first place. Yes, maybe they were there to just disrupt your operations, but there could be another reason too. Find out what the cops said they were doing there, and dont make assumptions. But i still think its sick what happened there and i wish i were there, so on the news they could carry out a 16 yrolds body from the building on national tv. : ) |
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Reactions | ||
by Edziu Thursday, Dec. 27, 2001 at 5:40 AM | mail: | |
"Perplexed" is quite right to note that the Police Hooligans have done much more for the cause than the Protester Hooligans did. But only in a direct sense -- remember, it was the Protester Hooligan's actions that prompted the police to react. |
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Terrifying! To go to sleep.. | ||
by GREENvisionZ Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 8:44 AM | mail: | |
..and awake to a club striking your head, again & again! Then to wake up in the hospital with an IV needle in your arm & a buzzing heart monitor beside your head! |
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thank you | ||
by sara Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 7:06 PM | mail: | |
Thank you for risking so much to keep the truth. |
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video on Sette | ||
by /cynK Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 9:39 AM | mail: | |
It's necessary for those not living in Italy thus not having access to Italian Tv to know that last night on TV Sette a video was presented by the GSF showing militant activists tranquilly conversing with carabinieri (the carabinieri are a kind of police force) in front of a van. |
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video on Sette | ||
by /cynK Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 9:45 PM | mail: | |
It's necessary for those not living in Italy thus not having access to Italian Tv to know that last night on TV Sette a video was presented by the GSF showing militant activists tranquilly conversing with carabinieri (the carabinieri are a kind of police force) in front of a van. |
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Nothing New | ||
by Solomon Thursday, Aug. 02, 2001 at 1:39 AM | mail: | |
They did this in Quebec too. It's the first thing you do as a facist. You seize the media to control the flow of information. Thank you IMC for becoming a media outlet that causes the police to fear you. The fact that they are employing these tactics shows that they are desperate and that we are winning. I'm tired of self righteous blame the victim nonsense. If direct action is such a distraction from the real issues and inhibits participation, why is it that our rallies keep getting bigger. I'll tell you why they're getting bigger, we are winning. |
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quick answers | ||
by z Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 10:28 AM | mail: | |
The Caribinieri are the state police force of Italy, something like the American FBI if it also did duty like the local constable or policeman. |
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leaders | ||
by anon does it w/o ego Tuesday, Jul. 24, 2001 at 6:10 AM | mail: | |
> I pray for leaders that will lead us out of dispair. |
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Current tactics are a repeat | ||
by karlof1 Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 12:28 AM | mail: | |
There currently is a three part analysis of the events in Gotenberg, Sweeden from earlier this year at the Italian indymedia site <http://italy.indymedia.org> that shows the linkage between police tactics and their evolution since Seattle, although the Stormtrooper headbashing of sleeping people is a new, Italian, but old Fascist method. Furthermore, Carlo wasn't the first to die in an anti-corporate-lead-globalization action. Many have died in India and Africa away from the lenses and computers of indymedia, through no fault of indymedia of course. Indeed, at least 30,000 people/day die as a result of G8 et al policies. The situation is rapidly getting worse. The reactionary G8 will do anything to hold their positions of power, which is why the US military has been training to attack its own cities. Essentially, what is happening to the Palestinians will be our fate too if we don't recruit more ordinary people into the movement and win over the several progressive politicians to our side. Above all we need to reach out to all people of color; their grassroots organizations and tactical networks are more advanced than they are given credit for, and we need them as much as they need us. Now is NOT the time to sit on our hands. |
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Same happend in Germany | ||
by Raknaroek Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 10:47 PM | mail: | |
In Germany the Police stormed a Anti-Atom Camp near a railway during the castor transports. |
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Turning Point | ||
by Michael Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 3:27 PM | mail: | |
We have reached the point of no return. |
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how can this make it to the mass press? | ||
by terry dean sommers Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 7:14 PM | mail: | |
sadly, most people in the world really don't know what's going on at these globalization meetings, and the eco/political realities which motivate the protestors. how can this leap be made, to the couch potatoes. It is encouraging, though, that each protest seems to grow compared to its predecessor, and i say you indies are my heros! |
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boycott anything italian. . .make their economy hurt | ||
by Jay Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 6:33 AM | mail: | |
Italy as a wholr is an outrage for alllowing this to happen. . . |
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rueters wire reports | ||
by WITCHBANGER Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 12:18 PM | mail: | |
this is basicallly how the wires are reporting it....i copied this off of rueters.....check drudgereport.com for the links: |
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free press | ||
by commrade Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 12:45 PM | mail: | |
many thanks for your hard work in the eye of the storm. |
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those fascist bastards | ||
by sarah Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 3:44 PM | mail: | |
news reports in papers and on the tv all over the world are reporing incessantly on the violent militant facton that they claim was present among the 100,000 plus demonstrators. If such a faction exists it's a tiny minority of people. It seems blatantly obvious that all of the vioence over the weekend was down to the heavyhanded tactics of the police who came to this summit determined that there would be trouble, and so they got it. Using live ammunition as a weapon against stones been thrown seems to any sane person a bit on the excessive side and their dispicable treatment of protestors has left a dirty taste in the mouth. It is their indiscriminate brutality and the murder of a young italian protestor that will be forever remembered from this summit |
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leaders and non/violence | ||
by ecofemme Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 12:31 AM | mail: | |
I agree with your response to the question of leadership. instead we all need to recognise our own strengths and weaknesses and to identify where we can all fit in. Organising ourselves implies finding our own niche; we must consider ourselves and this movement as an ecosystem. There are many like me who cannot be on the front line (fear committments etc)I am the typical fluffy, but I have other valuable skills. The developements in Genoa have confirmed my worst fears; that this is a war in which those who oppose the system must risk life and limb, for there is too much at stake for the oppressors of the world to agree to our demands. In future let those who want to 'kill the fucking police' instead use thier anger, bravery and (violence) to protect those like you at indymedia against the police. It is utterly futile to throw a few stones at heavily armed Carabiieri(or riot police in any country, and the futility of such violence is a turn-off for the many moderate sympathisers out there in the world. The action of the police has shown a clear need for violence as a defensive measure.(I recognised this myself at Oxford Circus) We all need to act in our own way. Let those who can talk quietly and persuasively out in the suburbs talk, let those who can paint pick up thier brushes, let those who want to peacefully demonstrate do so, let those who can broadcast keep us informed, let those who can write take up thier pens and laptops, and finally let those who can fight save thier energy until its really needed; as a defense and response to police brutality. To do this they will need more than 'their bodies'. It will take training and real protetive gear. This is an unfortunate but essential step. Let those who can do this volunteer now, and let the rest of us do what we have the skills to do in our own way.In an ecosystem everything has value; in this movement every act has value. |
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We will win. | ||
by Ziggy Thursday, Jul. 26, 2001 at 3:08 AM | mail: | |
"First they ignore you. Then They laugh at you. Then they fight you. THen you win." |
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sons and daughters of earth | ||
by guerillaman Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 5:04 PM | mail: | |
REMEMBER... Ours is the movement of peace, justice, and unity. Tune in the unified vibe. Obtain peace by BEING at peace. Justice will be done. Harmony will follow. We are the movement that heals the world. Our power is love. We need not stick, rock or gun. We have already won. MANIFEST! |
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HA! | ||
by DARK Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 4:18 PM | mail: | |
THE VENEER OF DEMOCRACY STARTS TO FADE!!!!! |
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Little reporting in US | ||
by Concerned world citizen Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 4:56 AM | mail: | |
I am thankful to Indymedia for continuing to report what it seems the major media in the US refuses to show. This morning I heard nothing about the raid on the major networks, or CNN. |
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CGIL must call general strike | ||
by Hal Sutton Thursday, Aug. 09, 2001 at 11:08 AM | mail: | |
This is not your typical antiglobalization protest. I think that part of this represents a turning point in state repression on an international scale, but the political situation in Italy must have the main impact on the ferocity of the police repression -- it resembles May-June '68 in France. |
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beatings to terrorize? | ||
by Chanda Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 7:20 PM | mail: | |
The beatings are probably part of some long term plan. One possibility is to terrorize protestors so there won't be so many of them next time. Somehow indymedia and others must raise a big enough hue and cry about these and the murder of the person who was run over that the main media are forced to take notice. tall order. |
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Beatings to polarize | ||
by Maximillian Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 6:58 PM | mail: | |
Another possible reason for the beatings is to polarize the sides. In other words, make the protestors hate the police and vice versa. This would lead to more violence on both sides, which the establishment media would then cover with relish. Most of the people in the world, especially the US, don't know what is going on in the world and would be confirmed in the opinion that the protestors are "communists" or just "hooligans". This of course is the opinion that the Big Business leaders want to promote, although many mainstream reporters don't even realize this. |
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PR | ||
by Verily Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 9:29 PM | mail: | |
Everything is PR these days and there is a sophisticated and subtle intelligence behind most events. |
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Don't be tempted by their methods | ||
by Joel Thursday, Jul. 26, 2001 at 3:09 AM | mail: | |
Threatening "war" against the authorities is proposing to use the weapon the authorities know and use the very best. Lasting justice can never win with that weapon. A violence-based schema may feel good for your revenge notions, but it can't change the basic fabric of the world's problems in either the short term or the long term. |
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The "Truth" | ||
by David Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 8:39 PM | mail: | |
This is a fudemental problem with extremism. When the world hears a report from extremist groups, they are skeptical to accept "the truth" as told by indy media sources who are sympathetic to extremism. I do not raise this point because I doubt your report. I have seen state directed violence here in Canada. Credibility around the world relies on a certain objectivity. Indy media (as well as the corporate media) does not possess (for the most part) any objectivity. |
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The "Truth" | ||
by David Saturday, Jul. 28, 2001 at 12:01 AM | mail: | |
This is a fudemental problem with extremism. When the world hears a report from extremist groups, they are skeptical to accept "the truth" as told by indy media sources who are sympathetic to extremism. I do not raise this point because I doubt your report. I have seen state directed violence here in Canada. Credibility around the world relies on a certain objectivity. Indy media (as well as the corporate media) does not possess (for the most part) any objectivity. |
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Authentic Human Beings | ||
by A Common Coward Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 8:44 PM | mail: | |
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Fascism is alive and well!! | ||
by Ron Malange Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 8:48 PM | mail: | |
Fascist Institutions, through Fascist Leaders, use Fascist Methods to attain Fascist Goals for the purpose of creating a Fascist World! What else can one say?---ABHORRENT! |
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Purpose of the protest movement | ||
by Maldita Zorra Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 9:19 PM | mail: | |
The future of the protest movement depends on converting the great "Silent Majority" of the people to your point of view. The American Revolution might never have happened after the Boston Massacre if the people in Virginia and other states hadn't been convinced of the moderation and the reasonableness of the protests of the people in Massachusetts. To convince them that Bostonians were not all crazy radicals, John Adams defended the British soldiers who had fired on the crowd and he got them acquited. (The crowd had thrown things at the soldiers and at least one was injured). Later Adams said that that defense was one of the best things he had done for his country. |
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hanx | ||
by raffaele Sunday, Jul. 22, 2001 at 11:01 PM | mail: | |
no comment needed,as it seems,just hanx for what you're doing.In the last days you indy journalists proved to be essential to reveal facts behind the censorship's curtain.I've been in Genoa too at the demonstration and I feel really lucky for coming back home safe. |
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A state of war now exists | ||
by George DeCarlo Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 1:08 AM | mail: | |
For those that believe in nonviolennce such as the Greens, do not confuse this with pacificism. Nonviolent action may be obliged to rise to higher levels as this war of globilized liberal democratic governments increases. |
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condemnation on police brutality in Genoa | ||
by Arze Glipo Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 1:59 AM | mail: | |
We salute you for your courage to report the truth. While mainstream media has substantial coverage only for the G8 leaders, you provided us with accounts on the side of the anti-globalization protesters. Let us not be deterred by the great powers tremendous and unified efforts to marginalize our movement for global justice and democracy. We are one with you in condemning police brutality and the repression of civil society initiatives in Genoa. Let us not waver. The people is on your side. |
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Shocked | ||
by Frances Haas Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 6:35 AM | mail: | |
This is what happens when you beard the beast in its lair. There are those people who will hurt others because they have orders to, and some may enjoy it. |
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Sympathy from Mexico | ||
by stef Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 7:56 AM | mail: | |
The world is watching!!!! |
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wake up, people | ||
by Pekka Havu Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 11:19 AM | mail: | |
You break law, you think it is a patriotic fight for the free world. Police stretches the law, you go on whining how democracy is compromised etc. |
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Isn't it strange | ||
by Pekka Havu Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 10:48 PM | mail: | |
that police violence erupts there, where people go against regulations. |
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Begining of Engagements. | ||
by The VOICE Africa Forum Goettingen, Germany Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 2:11 PM | mail: | |
The different situations, instances and reactions of the Italian State is not different from other states which have hosted world economic summits like the USA, Sweden, and very soon Canada. But every time our strategies are growing more superficial and less effective because we have decided to become ignorant of the basicness and genuity of fundamental Human Rights. Engagements and activism on Human Rights should be seen as a life time engagement and not as a theater of the haves and the have nots. |
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Is Pekka Havu a copper? | ||
by Stizzo Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 2:46 PM | mail: | |
Sounds like Pekka Havu is a cop of some sort... Hey Pekka Havu, you are a fucking IDIOT follower. |
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No more bullshit! | ||
by Jon Erik Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 2:47 PM | mail: | |
The idea of confronting the worlds richest nation and also strongest military powers with violence is so naive and the scenario is so impossible that i schocks me everytime to see the foolish militant activists living out their revolution romantics and their personal agression on the expense of both the constantly growing amount of peaceful ordinary citizens who claim their mass protest at every international summit and on the expense of the starving third-world population whose bright horizon seems to run away further for every throwed stone. |
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The best updatet story on the Internet, will there be more? | ||
by Henrik Olsen, Denmark Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 3:36 PM | mail: | |
This monday morning I have been browesing the Internet for news from Genova. This artikel is the best and most informativ I have found. I hope there will be followups soon, because media in Denmark are as usual - pro G8 and the policeforse - the selfcensur is working very well. |
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Thank you, My Brothers! | ||
by OneEyedMan Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 8:43 PM | mail: | |
Rise like Lions after slumber |
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on the right to criticize | ||
by some guy Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 10:41 PM | mail: | |
Chrysalis wrote: "Those who criticize the violent protesters are mouthing empty rhetoric if they themselves are unwilling to commit their lives to non-violent direct action and civil disobedience to end all oppression and global destruction." |
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Well, mister Stizzo | ||
by Pekka Havus Monday, Jul. 23, 2001 at 10:41 PM | mail: | |
Not a cop. Just a guy with IQ over 170. |
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To Pekka with IQ of 1.7 | ||
by MAD Tuesday, Jul. 24, 2001 at 12:12 AM | mail: | |
Terve Pekka ! |
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The truth? | ||
by sceptical Tuesday, Jul. 24, 2001 at 1:50 AM | mail: | |
Come on. Why should anyone believe you or the police? Both sides have too much invested in this to tell the truth. As for the man that died, I'm sorry, but if you attack an armed man with nowhere to run there is only going to be one outcome. People always call the cops "fascists" and "thugs", but when they actually hurt people, you are all shocked! Face it, in a real dictatorship none of those protesters would be walking free right now. They would be locked in a cellar somewhere, hooked up to a car battery. |
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Against Police Brutality | ||
by Art d Tuesday, Jul. 24, 2001 at 2:23 AM | mail: | |
Solidarity with the people of IMC Italy! |
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Paradox | ||
by Bruno Tuesday, Jul. 24, 2001 at 2:28 AM | mail: | |
A question has been growing inside my head since the last saturday, when I saw what happened in Genoa: the violent action of the black block is a good or a bad thing ? I surely understand their motivation and sometimes Í'm tempted to believe their wright because, after all, maybe a war is really needed to change the current state of things in the world today. But, from another point of view, is it right to do the same thing that the police does and we find so absurd ? I honestly would like to hear from someone who integrated the black block or fully agrees with this kind of attitude to understand the way you see this question. My e-mail is bfiuza@uol.com.br |
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Dear God... | ||
by Joseph Tuesday, Jul. 24, 2001 at 2:37 AM | mail: | |
This is the first I've heard of this. Horrible... I don't even have words. Those poor people. |
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Those Pics Are Frightening | ||
by Coop Tuesday, Jul. 24, 2001 at 4:56 AM | mail: | |
Is that the young Italian man that was shot between the eyes by the pigs? The police have really gone too far. I remember the summit of the Americas in Quebec City last year and the entire city was under seige. You couldn't get in or leave for an entire week. The 2002 G8 was to be in the city I live in (Ottawa). Our great and glorious leader Jean Cretin decided to move it to a small resort in Alberta instead. I am somewhat releived because I live and work in the city centre where most of the action would have been. However, the people in Alberta do not deserve the same fate as Genoa. |
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Well, hello to MAD too | ||
by Pekka Havus Tuesday, Jul. 24, 2001 at 7:30 AM | mail: | |
Just as typical. You beging with clumsy insults and fuck yous 'cause actually you feel insecure. And you end your message with badly translated fuck you. LOL (loughing out loud) |
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The beating. | ||
by Morgan Tuesday, Jul. 24, 2001 at 8:21 AM | mail: | |
It was an excellent article. We just have to keep on fighting these facist, motherfuckers. I believe our time is coming. |
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ATTN: Pekka | ||
by Iain Tuesday, Jul. 24, 2001 at 11:27 AM | mail: | |
Pekka, |
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italian cops | ||
by xype Tuesday, Jul. 24, 2001 at 5:57 PM | mail: | |
most italian cops i whitnessed are very agressive because, sadly, those guys are morons who only feel strong when holding a gun (and being in a group). they even raped a friend of my classmate - on public street. those guys are animals and in my humble opinion the only way to solve the problem is to nuke them out of their pants. god, they shot a guy and you can guess three times whether there will be any consequences or not. it's a shame that all over the world the police force is made out of idiots who only abuse the power that the states give them. be it italy, USA or austria or whatnot. |
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disbelife | ||
by xander Tuesday, Jul. 24, 2001 at 9:40 PM | mail: | |
i have been i protests in nyc for various causes and i have never heard of anything like this happing in america. i want to say to all the people on the front lines that you have my support i do not know if i could do the same things that you do. i have been hit by police for being in the protests but never like what is happing to the people in europe. this is where the line must be drawn we must not move back one more step those that can fight fight those that will stand by and report what is happing stand by and report. i wish that there is more that i could do to help you all but i can not think of anything just rember that you have the support of a teenager and iw ill fight the good fight when you can no longer do it. |
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Thats the way they are | ||
by sakis Tuesday, Jul. 24, 2001 at 10:44 PM | mail: | |
I can't believe the violence that the police used. It' s a shame. |
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HOW MANY ARE IN JAIL??? | ||
by Solidarity Wednesday, Jul. 25, 2001 at 1:54 AM | mail: | |
Do we know the current status of those who were beaten/arrested? How many are still in jail?? |
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Remove the source of the Oppressors power: | ||
by Zero-Point Wednesday, Jul. 25, 2001 at 6:10 AM | mail: | |
Expose the reality that at least the U.S. gov't/mil/corp complex has WORKING energy alternatives to fossil fuels, and has for a long time. Don't laugh until you investigate deeply. |
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Remove the source of the oppressors power: | ||
by Majesty's Monkey Wednesday, Jul. 25, 2001 at 6:17 AM | mail: info@majestysmonkey.com | |
Expose the reality that at least the U.S. gov't/mil/corp complex has WORKING energy alternatives to fossil fuels, and has for a long time. Don't laugh until you investigate deeply. |
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Remove the source of the oppressor's power: | ||
by Majesty's Monkey Wednesday, Jul. 25, 2001 at 6:20 AM | mail: | |
Expose the reality that at least the U.S. gov't/mil/corp complex has WORKING energy alternatives to fossil fuels, and has for a long time. Don't laugh until you investigate deeply. |
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Oops | ||
by Majesty's Monkey Wednesday, Jul. 25, 2001 at 6:22 AM | mail: | |
Oops-- heh heh. Sorry for the multi-post ;0) |
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stop the violence | ||
by Mathijs Beyer Wednesday, Jul. 25, 2001 at 3:01 PM | mail: | |
we may all thank the violent protesters for this all; they have provided the police for an excuse to commit this unlawfull violence. If this movement of anti-globalism is ever to be taken seriously we cannot accept the violence from within; so no room for masks, sticks, helmets, body-armour, molotov-cocktails. |
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School Building Rampage | ||
by Rhonda Coulter Chavers Wednesday, Jul. 25, 2001 at 7:16 PM | mail: | |
It is unbelieveable to hear of the beatings that police inflicted upon the innocent....however, if one reviews history, it repeats itself..and suddenly we are in Nazi Germany again...and suffer the spoils of the powerful...woe to our humanistic sides...and woe to police everywhere examples of humans that are indoctrined to just follow orders...and forget that they have a mind...it isn't a matter of the concept of anti-gobalization vs gobalization...it is once again the weak being trambled by the powerful...the powerful are the ones that legally hold the guns and weapons to contain or change our minds....this is just the beginning of a long and bitter road ahead for my children and grand-children. |
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Come on, dude, get real... | ||
by Real Man Wednesday, Aug. 01, 2001 at 8:26 PM | mail: | |
>Alleigence and reliance on designated leaders has, I |
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Charges dropped against some protesters | ||
by Sadie Thursday, Jul. 26, 2001 at 5:14 AM | mail: | |
Just thought I'd let people know that we've heard that charges have been dropped against some of the protestors taken from the IMC building and they are being deported. |
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A little comment about Nazis | ||
by Pekka Havus Thursday, Jul. 26, 2001 at 9:51 AM | mail: | |
For those unfamiliar with history.. |
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My point of view | ||
by jim Thursday, Jul. 26, 2001 at 7:29 PM | mail: | |
I have read a variety of sources concerning this matter, and while I haven't been everywhere in the world, I do consider myself to be knowledgable in the ways of the world. First let me start by saying I do not believe in violence at all. I believe the actions of the police in Genoa are inexcusable. I do however have a few questions that I think people should take a look at. Among the reports I have read from Genoa tell about Anarchist groups performing vandalism upon banks, shops and stores throughout Genoa. What does destroying banks and shops not owned by the "G8" have to do with trying to infiltrate the "red zone". Did these Anarchist groups think the police would let this matter just pass without some type of reaction?. Did these Anarchist groups think that the police forces would keep these violent groups separate from the peaceful protest groups? |
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They want a violent confrontation | ||
by sheila Reid Thursday, Jul. 26, 2001 at 7:49 PM | mail: | |
The powers that be WANT a violent confrontation with the protesters. Our only hope is to maintain passive resistance. I think we have to dig in for the long haul and work at getting the word out (thanks, Indymedia!) That's what it's all about: getting the word out. I need only to think of how the mass media managed to confuse the public about the Central American revolutions in the 80's to realize the effects of main stream propaganda. |
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in this day and age | ||
by ph8 Saturday, Jul. 28, 2001 at 12:05 PM | mail: | |
how can such atrocities still go on in this day and age, is the "media" such a stooge of big business that such things can occur and NOT get adequate and unbiased coverage? where is the media outrage? where are the headlines? i would like to know why this article/event isn't in the LA times, NY times, london daily, and so on. |
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from a 'Peacefull' BlackBlok supporter, | ||
by lena Thursday, Aug. 02, 2001 at 1:41 AM | mail: | |
I was a 'peacefull' protester walking with the black block. |
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Keep Sending Reports | ||
by Planet Janet Thursday, Aug. 02, 2001 at 1:31 AM | mail: planetjt@efn.org | |
This is so awful, it makes me cry. It could be your children or parents being treated like this. There is nothing in our media about this up here in Oregon, so please keep sending us reports so we can tell others what is happening. |
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How to defat your enemy | ||
by Josef Friday, Feb. 07, 2003 at 3:42 PM | mail: pissflaps44@hotmail.com | |
You should have discovered by now after years of protests that all protests are useless,and the absolute truth here is that you are time and again entering into battle or having battle forced upon you,with no prior experience of the art of warfare .Whether you choose to fight your enemy |
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defeating the enemy | ||
by josef Friday, Feb. 07, 2003 at 4:05 PM | mail: pissflaps44@hotmail.com | |
Peaceful protest is fine but imagine the outcome of the illegal italian police raid on the school if you were all conversant in the art of battle and all the "criminal restraint" techniques then you would have all seriously kicked thier asses and send thier cowardly asses packing. |
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